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		By: Gimlet		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2022 13:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-5298&quot;&gt;John Chandler&lt;/a&gt;.

I can&#039;t imagine how you can get your conservatory to that temperature!
But if you can, you could start at 35 for a couple of days then raise it to 45.
However, it might be cheaper in the long run to buy a heated cabinet with what you could save on your electric bill.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-5298">John Chandler</a>.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine how you can get your conservatory to that temperature!<br />
But if you can, you could start at 35 for a couple of days then raise it to 45.<br />
However, it might be cheaper in the long run to buy a heated cabinet with what you could save on your electric bill.</p>
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		By: John Chandler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Chandler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2022 15:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am looking forward to a large crop of Ivy honey this autumn and have been reading the comments regarding its extraction. Mostly say don’t put it in your extractor but use a heated cabinet or a heather press. 
My extractor is in my heated conservatory and is therefore like a heated cabinet so if I maintain the temperature of my conservatory and therefore the extractor at say 45 degrees centigrade am I being a bit nieve to assume that extraction will be proceed as withe any other honey?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking forward to a large crop of Ivy honey this autumn and have been reading the comments regarding its extraction. Mostly say don’t put it in your extractor but use a heated cabinet or a heather press.<br />
My extractor is in my heated conservatory and is therefore like a heated cabinet so if I maintain the temperature of my conservatory and therefore the extractor at say 45 degrees centigrade am I being a bit nieve to assume that extraction will be proceed as withe any other honey?</p>
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		By: Gimlet		</title>
		<link>http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-3856</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gimlet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2021 21:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-3855&quot;&gt;Phil Brookes&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree - it can be a nightmare. 
However it&#039;s a great source of autumn pollen and nectar for the bees which helps them build up for the winter. 
As you say, frames sometimes need to be removed to give the bees space in the spring but these can be used to make nucs later in the year. Spring is also the time to take a crop - not the brood frames but strong colonies can be set up in the autumn as outlined above 
Further research is currently being done into ivy and ling heather honey to see if they have medicinal properties similar to Manuka. And lets not forget - there is a growing market for ivy honey. Personally I don&#039;t like the taste of it but a lot of people do and they are willing to pay extra for it which helps sweeten the grief of having to handle it. 
A blessing and a curse then - like a lot of things in beekeeping.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-3855">Phil Brookes</a>.</p>
<p>I agree &#8211; it can be a nightmare.<br />
However it&#8217;s a great source of autumn pollen and nectar for the bees which helps them build up for the winter.<br />
As you say, frames sometimes need to be removed to give the bees space in the spring but these can be used to make nucs later in the year. Spring is also the time to take a crop &#8211; not the brood frames but strong colonies can be set up in the autumn as outlined above<br />
Further research is currently being done into ivy and ling heather honey to see if they have medicinal properties similar to Manuka. And lets not forget &#8211; there is a growing market for ivy honey. Personally I don&#8217;t like the taste of it but a lot of people do and they are willing to pay extra for it which helps sweeten the grief of having to handle it.<br />
A blessing and a curse then &#8211; like a lot of things in beekeeping.</p>
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		By: Phil Brookes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Brookes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2021 20:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-3849&quot;&gt;Davor&lt;/a&gt;.

I think ivy honey is a nightmare. I try and feed the bees with their sugar ration before the ivy flow starts. But it is not easy to get it right. I invariably find combs completely filled and rock solid with a mixture of ivy honey and sugar at my first spring inspection next year. The brood chamber can be nearly filled, restricting the queen’s egg laying at this critical time.

My only solution is to remove some filled brood frames and 
replace them with empty drawn combs.  Then I fill my large honey extractor with cold water, uncap the frames with ivy honey/sugar
and let them soak for a few hours or overnight. The ivy/honey mixture soon dissolves and the frames are ready for reuse. It is best to either put the extracted frames above the crow board for a cleanup or dry them carefully. Either way, the bees find them very attractive.

Any better ideas?

Phil]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-3849">Davor</a>.</p>
<p>I think ivy honey is a nightmare. I try and feed the bees with their sugar ration before the ivy flow starts. But it is not easy to get it right. I invariably find combs completely filled and rock solid with a mixture of ivy honey and sugar at my first spring inspection next year. The brood chamber can be nearly filled, restricting the queen’s egg laying at this critical time.</p>
<p>My only solution is to remove some filled brood frames and<br />
replace them with empty drawn combs.  Then I fill my large honey extractor with cold water, uncap the frames with ivy honey/sugar<br />
and let them soak for a few hours or overnight. The ivy/honey mixture soon dissolves and the frames are ready for reuse. It is best to either put the extracted frames above the crow board for a cleanup or dry them carefully. Either way, the bees find them very attractive.</p>
<p>Any better ideas?</p>
<p>Phil</p>
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		By: Gimlet		</title>
		<link>http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-3852</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gimlet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2021 13:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-3849&quot;&gt;Davor&lt;/a&gt;.

They certainly can struggle with it - it sets like rock. If they have uncapped frames - spray with water, the honey dissolves and they hoover it up then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-3849">Davor</a>.</p>
<p>They certainly can struggle with it &#8211; it sets like rock. If they have uncapped frames &#8211; spray with water, the honey dissolves and they hoover it up then.</p>
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		By: Davor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2021 11:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A cousin of mine has a problem with this particular honey. It hardens so much that poor bees starve to death. He noticed the problem before, but only recently learned it was due to the ivy honey.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A cousin of mine has a problem with this particular honey. It hardens so much that poor bees starve to death. He noticed the problem before, but only recently learned it was due to the ivy honey.</p>
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		By: Gimlet		</title>
		<link>http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-864</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gimlet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-863&quot;&gt;Conan&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-863">Conan</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		By: Conan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Conan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2014 12:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice blog, good practical info.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice blog, good practical info.</p>
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		By: Gimlet		</title>
		<link>http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-850</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gimlet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-849&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello David, 
If you actually melted the wax it would have released any pollen and/or old cocoons that were in the comb into your honey and I&#039;m guessing that&#039;s your gunge. I found that 45 degrees was plenty to melt the honey without melting the wax.
If I was you, I would heat it again but only to about 45 degrees - don&#039;t go melting the wax again - then coarse-strain it. After that you should be able to run it through a fine cloth without clogging it. 
If you heat honey much above 50 degrees you will cook it. 
Good luck!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://beespoke.info/2014/10/07/how-to-take-a-crop-of-ivy-honey/#comment-849">David</a>.</p>
<p>Hello David,<br />
If you actually melted the wax it would have released any pollen and/or old cocoons that were in the comb into your honey and I&#8217;m guessing that&#8217;s your gunge. I found that 45 degrees was plenty to melt the honey without melting the wax.<br />
If I was you, I would heat it again but only to about 45 degrees &#8211; don&#8217;t go melting the wax again &#8211; then coarse-strain it. After that you should be able to run it through a fine cloth without clogging it.<br />
If you heat honey much above 50 degrees you will cook it.<br />
Good luck!</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2014 15:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi there. Just a quick question about harvesting ivy honey. I was advised to cut out all the comb from the frames, put it in a large pot and place this pot in a water bath to melt the wax and free up the honey. This worked well and all was liquid at around 60 degrees. I imagined on cooling the wax would float to the surface and solidify leaving the honey underneath. Instead I found that a gunge floated to the surface and has always remained a gunge which makes getting to the main honey more difficult. If you try and scrape off the gunge it mixes it again with the honey below, so back to square one! Any advice on what I should do now? I do not have a heather press but could I warm it all through again and strain it through some cheesecloth? Thanks for your help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there. Just a quick question about harvesting ivy honey. I was advised to cut out all the comb from the frames, put it in a large pot and place this pot in a water bath to melt the wax and free up the honey. This worked well and all was liquid at around 60 degrees. I imagined on cooling the wax would float to the surface and solidify leaving the honey underneath. Instead I found that a gunge floated to the surface and has always remained a gunge which makes getting to the main honey more difficult. If you try and scrape off the gunge it mixes it again with the honey below, so back to square one! Any advice on what I should do now? I do not have a heather press but could I warm it all through again and strain it through some cheesecloth? Thanks for your help.</p>
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