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		By: Bernardo		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi.
Please some have experience about varroa destructor control for sun hives...?
Regards,
Bernardo]]></description>
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Please some have experience about varroa destructor control for sun hives&#8230;?<br />
Regards,<br />
Bernardo</p>
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		By: Gimlet		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://beespoke.info/2017/04/16/skeps-and-skep-beekeeping/#comment-7763&quot;&gt;Jasmin&lt;/a&gt;.

Regarding prayers and charms against a swarm - perhaps those are for people who aren’t beekeepers and don’t want bees in their chimney/roof?
Regarding swarming. The sources for my article are as follows:
Alston, F, Skeps, Their History, Making And Use. 1987. Northern Bee Books. Hebden Bridge.
Jones, S., Skeps, tools and accessories. 2007. IBRA. Cardiff
Keys, J., A Treatise on the Breeding and Management of Bees. 1814. London
I think they are all out of print now -  the last one certainly is. 
There is the old saying: - a swarm of bees in May is worth a load of hay, a swarm in June - a silver spoon and a swarm in July ain’t worth a fly - in other words for a skep beekeeper the earlier the swarm, the bigger the honey crop (probably).
As a beekeeper you will know that nothing encourages swarming like congestion - hence the skep size thing to bring it on early. Keys also mentions feeding the bees in the spring to push things along.
Regarding getting the honey. They didn’t used to drown the bees - they would either ‘drive’ them up into a fresh skep by drumming or stupefy them with the fumes from smouldering pieces of dried puffballs. According to Keys, the bees would recover from stupefaction after 10 minutes or so and go about their business. He also says this is not the case with driving - after this the bees are bad tempered for 3-4 days.
A Youtube search for &quot;heathland beekeeping Douglas Zeringue” will find a series of very informative videos of skep beekeeping in Germany including swarm catching and harvesting the honey.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://beespoke.info/2017/04/16/skeps-and-skep-beekeeping/#comment-7763">Jasmin</a>.</p>
<p>Regarding prayers and charms against a swarm &#8211; perhaps those are for people who aren’t beekeepers and don’t want bees in their chimney/roof?<br />
Regarding swarming. The sources for my article are as follows:<br />
Alston, F, Skeps, Their History, Making And Use. 1987. Northern Bee Books. Hebden Bridge.<br />
Jones, S., Skeps, tools and accessories. 2007. IBRA. Cardiff<br />
Keys, J., A Treatise on the Breeding and Management of Bees. 1814. London<br />
I think they are all out of print now &#8211;  the last one certainly is.<br />
There is the old saying: &#8211; a swarm of bees in May is worth a load of hay, a swarm in June &#8211; a silver spoon and a swarm in July ain’t worth a fly &#8211; in other words for a skep beekeeper the earlier the swarm, the bigger the honey crop (probably).<br />
As a beekeeper you will know that nothing encourages swarming like congestion &#8211; hence the skep size thing to bring it on early. Keys also mentions feeding the bees in the spring to push things along.<br />
Regarding getting the honey. They didn’t used to drown the bees &#8211; they would either ‘drive’ them up into a fresh skep by drumming or stupefy them with the fumes from smouldering pieces of dried puffballs. According to Keys, the bees would recover from stupefaction after 10 minutes or so and go about their business. He also says this is not the case with driving &#8211; after this the bees are bad tempered for 3-4 days.<br />
A Youtube search for &#8220;heathland beekeeping Douglas Zeringue” will find a series of very informative videos of skep beekeeping in Germany including swarm catching and harvesting the honey.</p>
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		By: Jasmin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 11:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this excellent description. I&#039;ve been trying to get a clearer understanding of how skeps were actually used during the Middle Ages, which is difficult because most written sources focus on the social or economic aspects of beekeeping (e.g religious symbology of bees or tax and tithe records). 
There are a few things that perplex me. Firstly, there are a great many charms and prayers &quot;against a swarm&quot; and I&#039;m yet to find any that encourage bees to swarm. You said that skeps were made small to encourage swarming. Can you please tell me where this information comes from? The quote saying the bees don&#039;t like their hive too large is certainly try, but i can&#039;t tell if they&#039;re talking about encouraging swarming or just keeping the hive warm and orderly (we use langstroth hives and make sure there&#039;s not excessive space). Smaller hive size would mean less resources in a climate that has a short foraging season already. 
Second, i find it hard to believe anyone would down a hive because you&#039;d lose lots of honey or dilute it so it&#039;ll ferment, and also, you&#039;d have to make a brand new skep which you know is hard work! 
Lastly, if they harvest entire hives, how did they get the brood out of the comb? Have you ever smelled boiling water with brood comb in it? It&#039;s truly awful. We have nice metal strainers and cheesecloth to separate the debris from the wax, but I still don&#039;t use that wax myself except to create new frames.
I&#039;d love to hear your thoughts about this. 
Many thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this excellent description. I&#8217;ve been trying to get a clearer understanding of how skeps were actually used during the Middle Ages, which is difficult because most written sources focus on the social or economic aspects of beekeeping (e.g religious symbology of bees or tax and tithe records).<br />
There are a few things that perplex me. Firstly, there are a great many charms and prayers &#8220;against a swarm&#8221; and I&#8217;m yet to find any that encourage bees to swarm. You said that skeps were made small to encourage swarming. Can you please tell me where this information comes from? The quote saying the bees don&#8217;t like their hive too large is certainly try, but i can&#8217;t tell if they&#8217;re talking about encouraging swarming or just keeping the hive warm and orderly (we use langstroth hives and make sure there&#8217;s not excessive space). Smaller hive size would mean less resources in a climate that has a short foraging season already.<br />
Second, i find it hard to believe anyone would down a hive because you&#8217;d lose lots of honey or dilute it so it&#8217;ll ferment, and also, you&#8217;d have to make a brand new skep which you know is hard work!<br />
Lastly, if they harvest entire hives, how did they get the brood out of the comb? Have you ever smelled boiling water with brood comb in it? It&#8217;s truly awful. We have nice metal strainers and cheesecloth to separate the debris from the wax, but I still don&#8217;t use that wax myself except to create new frames.<br />
I&#8217;d love to hear your thoughts about this.<br />
Many thanks</p>
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